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Overheard...

If Paul Martin or the Liberals remain in office, with their documented support for the GLBT community, at least when he fucks me up the ass, it won't be punishable by law.

the author of said comment can request attribution if he wishes, just wasn't sure he wanted the fame and fortune of being mentioned in my blog

Date: 2005-04-14 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c9.livejournal.com
It's tough in the US. You have to choose between a party that wants you dead, and a party that wants you to shut up but keep giving money. Of course, there's always Ralph Nader: give him money and get none of the benefits. Crazy world.

Date: 2005-04-14 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miket61.livejournal.com
My take on American politics is that I would rather be a Republican who disagrees with his party (vocally) about its stand on gay issues, than to be a Democrat who disagrees with his party about its stand on taxes, foreign relations, abortion, the death penalty, and whether Barney Frank could really have gotten himself a boyfriend hot enough to be a callboy.

Date: 2005-04-15 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c9.livejournal.com
Would you say you're a traditional Republican, believing in smaller government, less regulation, more protectionism, and more states' rights? Or a modern-day Republican, believing in larger government but less social safety net, less freedom and privacy, more wars, and more interference in states' rights and individuals' rights?

"Liberals" is such a bad word in US politics, it's surreal. Your liberals *do* have documented support for GLBT concerns -- the problem is, Democrats aren't your liberals. They just barely qualify as centre most of the time! :)

But if you reduce the viewing frame to merely Republican vs Democrat, which is often necessary in the US, then you must admit that the Democrats do have more of a ducmented support for GLBT issues than Republicans do. Yes, it wavers, and yes it's nothing close to actual capital-s Support, but it is there.

Date: 2005-04-15 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miket61.livejournal.com
I'd go with the first definition, although I'm not that strong on protectionism. Throw in personal responsibility, and you're there.

A lot of the recent interference into civil rights was a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11, and they wisely set up the Patriot Act so that major parts of it would expire and require re-examination. I think it's being toned down.

I went to a school with very Liberal professors (in the U.S. sense). They made it quite clear that people were generally incompetent and we all needed a government-based organization to tell us how to think and behave. And, of course, they were qualified to be part of that elite group that hands out instructions for everyone else.

These days the Democrats don't have any issues; their entire operation has been reduced to blocking everything the Republicans do on general principle, and occasionally claiming that changes in bankruptcy or voters' registration laws discriminate against black people.



Date: 2005-04-15 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c9.livejournal.com
...oh, and I don't think anybody disagrees with you on the callboy. :)

Date: 2005-04-15 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miket61.livejournal.com
Power may be an aphrodisiac, but even being a Senator doesn't make Barney Frank attractive.

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