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I don't care if it's been around since the 18th century, or that Mark Twain and James Joyce used it to mean figuratively. I still don't like literally not meaning literally.

Date: 2005-11-02 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c9.livejournal.com
No! I'm a cranky grammar bitch and I want my consistency! :)

Date: 2005-11-02 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simplisticton.livejournal.com
Hm, then maybe you ought to get picky about a language other than English :-) I mean one that isn't a barbarous amalgam with no hard-and-fast structure or rules.

Oh, and don't ever, ever, ever read any of the Beat Poets' work. You're liable to literally have a heart attack! :-)

Date: 2005-11-02 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c9.livejournal.com
Shush.

(I do know, of course, that English is merely a Frankenstein's Monster of other languages' parts. This is all in jest. Except for the misuse of literally.)

Date: 2005-11-02 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simplisticton.livejournal.com
To paraphrase Dr. Nick: "Literally means figuratively? What a country!"

Date: 2005-11-02 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nihilicious.livejournal.com
Another battle in the war between prescriptive grammarians ("words mean what they're supposed to mean") and descriptive grammarians ("words mean what people use them to mean").

Descriptive grammarians are right, of course, but it's a false dichotomy. We don't need to abandon arguing about the "proper" use of words just because people don't use them "properly". It's just a matter of picking our battles.

I think "literally" continues to be a battle worth fighting, because "literally" is a perfectly good word with an important meaning. If we accept that "literally" can be used to mean "figuratively", then we're making it awfully hard to mean what we say when we use "literally" to mean "literally". :)

In other words, I want to be able to say "Our television habits are literally killing us", and have people understand that I'm not just using hyperbole, I'm making a point. If we lose the battle for "literally", we lose that subtlety of meaning. I'm not fussy for fussy's sake, only when I think there's an important consequence.

And I don't particularly care which dead writers thought which way about the issue, though it's an interesting sidebar.

Date: 2005-11-02 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c9.livejournal.com
Hear, hear!

Date: 2005-11-02 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zedinbed.livejournal.com
In the infamous words of Johnny Depp playing Willy Wonka:

"You're weird".

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