c9: (mooncar)
c9 ([personal profile] c9) wrote2003-08-13 10:59 am

Equal rights for all.

So I emailed a bunch of friends at work to ask them to please call their MPs and support equal marriage rights for all (i.e. same-sex marriage, but it really should be called EQUAL marriage). Most said nothing, and I think are silently supportive (which isn't much use sometimes...), some said "100% agree Cam, the situation sucks", and one (very religious) said "I don't want that [equal marriage] to happen, but I value your friendship."

I really do (did?) feel like I was close friends with this guy, and it is seriously bothering me that he isn't on the equality side on this issue. I feel like if he knew the details then he would be, but maybe he already does and is just anti-equality? I really want to debate him on this and convince him, but I'm really worried that if I do he won't change his position and I'll end up more upset and less one friend.

But every time he comes in the office I tense up, my stomach is bugging me... I really feel like I've already lost a big chunk of our friendship. ARGH.

[identity profile] bartok.livejournal.com 2003-08-13 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
as difficult as it may seem, discussing religion and/or politics at work is never a good idea. In this case it's probably best to leave it be, despite the ulcer forming in your stomach. :-)

[identity profile] c9.livejournal.com 2003-08-14 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh yes, the I'm-in-a-union answer. :-)

Imagine if it was Wil though -- that's more like the closeness of friendship. Makes it harder.

[identity profile] bartok.livejournal.com 2003-08-14 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the main reason I am friends with Wil is due to common interests. For this guy, who is more a part of the "mainstream" it is far easier to have a differing opinion and feel comfortable with it. I guess what I consider is that here at work I'm not as union-friendly as others, and on occassion I have had co-workers ask my opinion on something, and then practically attack me when I don't agree with them, despite offering sound reasons. So having someone ask my opinion, and then go on the offensive when I give something other than what they want to hear, can cause a lot of issues in the workplace. This is all IMHO of course....

[identity profile] c9.livejournal.com 2003-08-14 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Good point. I would hate to be asked and dismissed, though I don't mind objectively debating. But I fear that our friendship would keep me from being objective. Bleah.

Religion...

(Anonymous) 2003-08-13 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
See really religious people don't usually support these kinds of things. Why? Because no where in the bible is it mentioned, so if its not mentioned then it must be wrong. Catholicism is based on beliefs and fundamentals developed over 2000 years ago, and they aren't willing to change with the times... 'cept for us Protestants. Sometimes you just have to accept the fact that these people are like this, there is nothing more to it. (And good luck with swinging that in Nova Scotia, Mr. Hamm (minority government or not) is highly religious, why do you think Sunday Shopping hasn't been an issue or shot down when it was passed here in New Brunswick? Thats all for me. (I know I painted a pretty broad brush across Catholics, but it must be done.) AJ

Re: Religion...

(Anonymous) 2003-08-13 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
From CBC.ca (http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/13/samesex030813). Don't know if you saw this or not.

Re: Religion...

[identity profile] c9.livejournal.com 2003-08-14 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's easy enough to paint the religious mob, but just one person -- especially this guy, who's actually got a degree in Theology, and has read ancient Greek texts, and IS Protestant... *sigh*

Re: Religion...

(Anonymous) 2003-08-14 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Really? He IS Protestant? Oh dear me. I'm guessing I painted a much to broad picture of religion then. I do deeply appologize (for this act) for any Catholics out there who were offended.